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3000 meters into nowhere
Just out of curiosity? How does connecting to a ten house middle of nowhere gets us connected to the rest of the world? Vrilkhoven, the name alone is extraterrestrial. What is the infra from there on? Anyone?? --M10
afaik there's a fibre of some backbone, and the one to Landgoed Velder is getting connected/spliced to it. Thali 21:53, 28 Jun 2005 (CEST)
Pmr's and trainduct
PMR's will be avalible. The trainduct will be the most difficult section, but a electrical tube will not snap if you are carefull.
-- Attilla
Since yelling isn't that effective over 2km's (of course also not from one end of the tunnel under the railtracks to the other end) it might be some idea to bring PMR devices.
BugBlue 16:15, 26 Jun 2005 (CEST)
the train duct.
it's about 40 meters right? it's open, but possibly curved? also loads of sand.. and someone claimed plain electrical tubing will snap.. anyone have any ideas on this?
-- Sebastian
Of course: "Just do it" ;P
-- T1000
By this time the duct has long been conquered, but to answer your questions: It is 48 meters; it is open and curved horizontally; there are sand and mud; electrical tubing doesn't snap because the curve is horizontal, and no normal sockets but bigger tube and duct tape were used.
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Juerd 22:33, 29 Jun 2005 (CEST)
change of RailRoad page
- I moved Fiberparty to FiberParty
- I renamed RailRoad to FiberParty::RailRoadDuct
- I linked on the FiberParty page to the FiberParty::RailRoadDuct page.
Aldert Hazenberg 18:01, 26 Jun 2005 (CEST)
Image of the route
I added the image of the cabling route. Do something nice with it, i'd say :)
Hanno 01:47, 27 Jun 2005 (CEST)
- Something nice, like steganography, you mean? :) Juerd 12:16, 27 Jun 2005 (CEST)
I changed the image to where the phiber is actually going to go. The route is a 'watergang' from the 'waterschap', i.e. the water authority. It has a duct underneath the Eindhovenseweg. All the crossing through fields have already been arranged by Ruud, the (great!) guy from Landgoed Velder that knows everyone around there.
Sorry that the old image was apparently still floating around...
Rop 16:17, 28 Jun 2005 (CEST)
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The night before you posted the new image, we already went and conquered some ducts, including the one underneath the Eindhovenseweg. This was one of the harder ducts, especially as there's currently still water going through it. A guy who lives there was indeed already contacted and provided help and some conversation (by finding a good suitable wooden block for us, so the end of the PVC would float) :). We were fortunate to heard the new route on site, otherwise we might have conquered entirely irrelevant ducts! :)
Juerd 11:00, 29 Jun 2005 (CEST)
PMR?
What does PMR stand for? What is the frequency? - Juerd
PMR = Private Mobile Radio Frequencies for 8 channel devices (standard) 446.00625 MHz, 446.01875, 446.03125, 446.04375, 446.05625, 446.06875, 446.08125, 446.09375 Also known as PMR 446
BugBlue 10:38, 29 Jun 2005 (CEST)
Neat, I have two of those. I'll bring them, and hopefully batteries for them too. (I can get batteries cheap, so if someone needs them, just send me a message. (4*AAA NiMH700: € 4; 40*AAA Alkaline: € 12))
Juerd 10:50, 29 Jun 2005 (CEST)
Laying out the actual fiber
How we plan to actually get the 3000meters of cable trough all those ducs and along the route?
It seems that the 'plan' is to pull the cable trough, with all the volunteers guiding the cable along the way? Is this still at all possible when we are at 1000 meters or 2000 meters?
- I doubt pulling through kilometers of cable is useful. I have no idea what the official plan is, but so far I had just assumed it'd be a accordeon/caterpillar movement, going a few meters at a time. (Wait until the guy before you has provided some slack, then pull that part through, and then the person who comes after you can do that, all of this repeatedly until the entire cable is there.)
- Juerd 12:04, 1 Jul 2005 (CEST)
Or do we at some point (say every 1000 meters) pull the whole cable trough, and lay it out on the fields temporary, so we can continue from there?
Both methods seem difficult to me. Are there any better ideas perhaps?
The 'normal' way of laying out fibers is by blowing them trough pipes that are layed out first, with pressured air.
- Right. But that would be expensive and would take even much more time. Especially since there is no easy way to get such pipes through the so dreaded ducts.
- Juerd 12:04, 1 Jul 2005 (CEST)
Psy 11:07, 1 Jul 2005 (CEST)
In addition to that: what kind of fiber will be used, and how many strands?
Hpromatem 11:03, 1 Jul 2005 (CEST)
6mm thick protected fibre... so far I think it consists out of 2or3 parts, as I've heard its more common in these situations to use shorter parts and weld them together... no idea what the 'offical' strategy is.
Sebastian 10:45, 2 Jul 2005 (CEST)
Koppelblokje, man. Koppelblokje. :)
Niels 00:21, 10 Jul 2005 (CEST)
